Posts by The Rebel

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What makes a WORLD famous musician?

by The Rebel in

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my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.

anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.

as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.

The Rebel

Krejames " in the town I live we have a well known musical academy and some of the buskers we get are amazing"

The Rebel. Not sure how to relate that comment to my post, but Brian Connolly lead singer of the Sweet born in Glasgow Scotland ended up a drunk in every pub in Rickmansworth until his death. For the record "The Sweet" had 3 consecutive number ones in the Uk, and sold over 5 million albums. I grew up in Rickmansworth just outside Watford, and Brian Connolly was a permanent fixture in the local pubs, or crashed out on a park bench. I know he lived in a council house in Mill- End for a few years, and I know from many of the people that drunk in the pubs he drunk in he was a great guy who had an alcohol problem.

I also remember when I was 6 or 7 Anne Clementson my first puppy love offering to pay me 1 penny for each of my collection of magazine pictures of the band, and I wish I had suggested a kiss instead.

The Rebel.

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A great suggestion from a current Bethelite on the chopping block

by Gilbeath Haaraloth in

a very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.

although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.

he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.

The Rebel

Don't delay, lets vote is DJS a "dick " or an " ass"?

As a " misguided but well intentioned poster " I will reply with my "no skill and no talented " answer DJS is a "dick". But having had DJS communicate and respond to many of my threads I am not totally convinced. In fact i wouldn't even call him an ass. But don't take my word for it, read his post history, there is no limit to the great and thoughtful comments he has given. And I do appreciate it...thanks

The Rebel.

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Confidential.

by The Rebel in

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this post is not to be read by those employed by the w.t who monitor this site.

promise?.

dear board members,.

The Rebel

let me clarify why I started this O.P.

I once started an O.P " Is my friend on the way out of the organization?"

I asked the question based on email communication we shared. This is one his emails:-

"just to start , just to confirm I am a Ministerial Servant, my wife and two of my children are pioneers, my other child left home he could not live within the constraints of our faith"

As our personal emailing continued he opened up more about his concerns on the Royal Commision in Australia eat, ect. Sadly I could not bring him to research on this board, but I had hoped he was on the way out. Very sadly when I contacted him about coming to the football with me this Saturday, ( I now live far from watford, but I am going to the match this Saturday) he replied " I go with P...l J....y , and sit next to Matthew H....y and Ri....g h...n." And as these people are witnesses I got the hint I was not welcome. I guess he compromised his moral and ethical conscience for family and friendship.

Personally who am I to judge? But It does make me appreciate the value of sites like this, because it gives those questioning contact with those that have followed through on similar questions in similar circumstances and have had the guts to leave.

The Rebel.

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"Sighing and Groaning" is NOT a mark of holiness...!! (Rant!)

by Muddy Waters in

all these damn years in that damn cult -- remember how they tell you that jehovah looks upon those "who are sighing and groaning" (at all the terrible things being done.... focusing on all the evils and woes of the world and satan's system) -- and that all this sighing & groaning is some sort of mark of holiness?????.

every negative news article, every bad bit of something or circumstance - all support and become part of that woeful mindset.

and we are supposed to keep on being like that, sighing and groaning our lives away to receive some sort of damn mark from an angel's ink horn, to mark us as worthy of life..

The Rebel

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"Sighing and Groaning" is NOT a mark of holiness...!! (Rant!)

by Muddy Waters in

all these damn years in that damn cult -- remember how they tell you that jehovah looks upon those "who are sighing and groaning" (at all the terrible things being done.... focusing on all the evils and woes of the world and satan's system) -- and that all this sighing & groaning is some sort of mark of holiness?????.

every negative news article, every bad bit of something or circumstance - all support and become part of that woeful mindset.

and we are supposed to keep on being like that, sighing and groaning our lives away to receive some sort of damn mark from an angel's ink horn, to mark us as worthy of life..

The Rebel

Muddy Waters " Sighing and Groaning" is not a mark of holiness...! ( Rant !)

The Rebel. ( A) So true, it gives very little pleasure, and is quite embarrassing. I only wish I had been deaf and damaged my hearing aid when I sat through all those meetings, because then I would have appreciated the merciful tone of silence is better than W.T bullshit.

The Rebel.

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Confidential.

by The Rebel in

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friends

this post is not to be read by those employed by the w.t who monitor this site.

promise?.

dear board members,.

The Rebel

This post is NOT to be read by those employed by the W.T who monitor this site. PROMISE?

Dear board members,

Just a short post to thank you for helping me learn the truth about the W.T. Your efforts have been greatly appreciated. Absorbing all the information has been sobering. It's a great shame as individuals we can't sue the watchtower for wasted years, but in retaliation I have decided to take the bandages off and make the most of life.

And my reason for the post?

This new found fun in my life owes much of its existence to the hard work and dedicated courageous people that have opened there life's up, and given there testimony here.

The Rebel.

p.s sorry to disappoint but this isn't a goodbye post.

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Survey

by Reborn93 in

i was recommended to this forum by a member of jw recovery.

i am a former jw studying a psychology degree in the uk.

i am conducting a survey looking at former and current jehovah's witnesses and their beliefs.

The Rebel

May I respectfully suggest you could add a comment field on the survey for each question, that way you may receive additional valuable feedback.

The Rebel.

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A great suggestion from a current Bethelite on the chopping block

by Gilbeath Haaraloth in

a very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.

although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.

he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.

The Rebel

:-)

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A great suggestion from a current Bethelite on the chopping block

by Gilbeath Haaraloth in

a very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.

although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.

he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.

The Rebel

I had intended to leave this thread, but I feel I must reply to your posts " brandnew"

In my opinion we have a new poster, and an O.P written to awaken our sympathies for " his" friend from bethel. Now posters on the thread are questioning the authenticity of the O.P. Personally I find my sympathy is with the new poster, and if he is genuine and not so tormented by these accusations I hope he rises to DJS challenge, and clarifies the authenticity of the O.P. Until then I personally feel it unfair to attack the new poster further.

The Rebel.

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A great suggestion from a current Bethelite on the chopping block

by Gilbeath Haaraloth in

a very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.

although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.

he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.

The Rebel

Ummmm, the Internet is challenging:-

A) wanting to sympathize and empathize with posters.

B) marking those for liguidation who break the posting guidelines.

Well having read this O.P I don't personally feel a victim of bullshit, and all I would add is I was not searching for authenticity in the O.P. I therefore hope your friend from bethel doesn't end up peddling dope, or hating an organization, but takes personal accountability for his life and makes a success of life outside bethel.

The Rebel.